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I received a mailer from The New England MG T Registery requesting to call a 1-800 number to allow update of T-ownership information due to creation of a UNIQUE publication. It turns out it was basically a telemarketer selling a $200 hard bound album.
Richard Taylor TD3983

Well, it wasn't exactly a telemarketer if they got you to call them! Although I've not seen the mailer, it is probably something the register agreed to in order to make some money, and provide a 'service' to owners... or not, maybe someone is just fishing.

warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Hmm. Got that, plus an email making the same request. It looked legit. I haven't called yet -- thanks for the warning!!!


EDIT: Here's the email:

IMPORTANT REQUEST


The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd.

Dear M/M XXXXXXXXX,
(Your ID#: XXXXXXXXX)

We are currently in the final stages of preparing the MG 'T'
Register Membership Album, a handsome publication featuring a gallery of
member submitted photos with essays. We need your help! A brief
telephone call will ensure your information is completely accurate and
up-to-date.

Please, give us a call at your convenience within the next week so
that we may verify your information with you. Don't miss out on the
opportunity to share your enthusiasm for the preservation and enjoyment
of T-Series and Vintage MGs.

CALL TODAY - TOLL FREE 1-800-827-4406
(Eastern Time)

Mon. - Fri. 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
Sat. 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

International Residents: You may also call at:
USA Country Code (1) 757.965.8092
Monday - Friday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. UTC/GMT-5


Thank you in advance for your cooperation in making this unique
publication a success.


Charles J. Searles
Chairman
The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd.


P.S. Harris Connect, a trusted partner of The New England MG 'T'
Register, Ltd., has been chosen to produce our publication. Harris
Connect's commitment to protecting the privacy and ensuring the
integrity of the information collected for the project is reflected in
their privacy policy online at www.harrisconnect.com/privacy.html

Rob Edwards

i got both the mailing and the enote too. regards, tom
tom peterson

It's just the same da@#$%#%&$*^ BoD that seems to think that all NEMGTR members have more money than they know what to do with. They farm out the every five years or so directory to a 3rd party who makes a bundle on it. I have the 1992 and 1997 versions when the directory was fairly simple. I think Gord Clark tried to talk some sense into the BoD a couple of years ago, but no such luck. Funny how the MGB club can provide members with such a directory at very minimal cost. Please excuse me if sound a bit bitter about this. I AM!
Bud
Bud Krueger

the hudson essex terraplane club provides a VERY complete directory to all active members. glove box sized to take on a trip..peace of mind knowing where EVERY friendly hudson owner is along the way. regards, tom
tom peterson

I got this mailer too, they do this every few years and I fell for it once..completely useless for research...never again! They will be bugging us for months to come....
Terry in Oakland
Terry Sanders

LOL I guess your right Dave, telemarketer was just the first thing that came to mind. The mailer doesn't mention money just wants you to call and ensure all the information is accurate.
I guess it is for a good cause but I am with Bud, my well dried up a long time ago so if I get an extra $200 dollars its either spend it on parts or save it for parts...

Richard Taylor TD3983

If you look up Harris Connect, you will see that they are the people who insinuate themselves into all sorts of organizations, typically ones with peer pressure, like High Schools and Colleges, to sell overpriced yearbooks and the like. Always thought it was "cruel and unusual punishment" to subject kids to that. And now they have expanded to "non profits", I suppose to ensure that they remain so. Slick and very high priced salesmen, and for grown ups, your own fault if you fall for it. Fire the board, eat the rich.

FRM
FR Millmore

Thanks to all for this post and responses. I too received the post card size mailer and initially thought it was something I should respond to. I now know better. FRM is right when he suggests that a board that resorts to such as this should be removed.

Cheers to all as this summer comes to a close -- John
John Brickell

Bud,

There was a point in time when the NEMGTR 'Directory', a hard cover edition, was selling for almost $90. The last edition I bought was the 1997.

Most clubs include a 'Membership Roster' in their fees, but such is not the case with the Register.

This issue also came up again at this year's Noggin 'n natter, but Charlie didn't know what the final price was going to be. Seems that only Harris control this, not the Register.

... seems wrong.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

We got the postcard and it looked funny that there was no reference to a website to review such a yearbook and nothing posted at NEMGTR website. It would be nice to at least see examples from previous years.

I called and was told the hardcover was $100, softcover $80 and a CD $24.95. She said she'd send an email with directions to submit pictures and stories. We declined and no email ever materialized. My inclination was it will be more of a "vanity" publication which features the subscribing members cars and not much else.
Jim Northrup

I used to belong as well. It got snooty and expensive. Pity, it was once a great organization that provided a valuable service.
Ira Spector (PA)

Hello friends,

be very carefull. John James from TT2 wrote in an e-mail , that the web site of TT2 was hacked. May be be that TT was also hacked.

Klaus

Klaus Harthof

I got the mailer and email along with virtually identical ones for the graduate school I attended. Trashed all of it.

I recently rejoined NEMGTR after a 15 year absence. I don't know about snooty, but they sure don't hesitate to pick your pocket whenever possible!
David Littlefield

Thanks all for your comments as I was about to be peer pressured into it. I must say however, it would be handy to have a reference book of names and addresses of folks owning T's just to know who has one close to my address.

Bill
Bill Brown

Jim says $100,,, Richard started with $200,,, ?????? who's correct???
STEVE WINCZE

I thought the girl told me $200 for hardcover and $180 for softbound but I may have heard the lady wrong my hearing is not the best.

Regards,
Rich
Richard Taylor TD3983

Ok,,, here are the real prices,,
HARD COVER or CD $99.99
SOFT COVER $79.99
CD OF PICTURES ONLY $24.99

I believe $80 was the price of the directory the last time it was offered to those who wanted it..

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SPW
STEVE WINCZE

As David L says, I too get mailers from Harris from past schools. Before data phones and the internet, the club book was invaulable if traveling cross country. If you don't want the book, don't buy it, but don't trash the club. From day one, the NEMGTR has been the most valuable source of accurate information on our cars (T-series handbook, etc.). Think of the hundreds of magnificent factory photos Dick Knudson rescued and printed. Our cars are documented better than about anything else due to Dick's and the club's efforts. My wife and I have found through being on youth sports boards and dance parents those that complain the most usually do the least. I suggest this- if you don't like it, give your time and effort for free, and join the board. Then you can do whatever you want. A happy NEMGTR member-George
George Butz

This has happened in several of the car clubs. Basically the publisher approaches the board members and offers to do all the work, and the club gets a percentage.
Some members in some clubs are upset as they see this as the board selling the membership list without their explicit consent.
A very similar deal was done with the AACA causing a stir. The email list and home addresses were given and the offer still is coming regularly. The Boards reaction was one of surprise and indifference to the members. They don't see the problem - "we are just trying to generate income and raise revenue."

Kinda like Congress and the past couple of administrations.
Dallas Congleton

Steve, thanks for checking this out and setting the record straight.
-David
D. Sander

Thanks, Steve. How do we get in line for a soft cover copy? I think that's about what I paid for the hard copy ones that I have from the '90s. Bud
Bud Krueger

...we send out a roster with names and addresses very simple in design for free at the first of every year..... (OMGTR)
gblawson(gordon- TD27667)

FYI,
I finally did receive a followup email, but there was never any "updating our record." I will eventually go to the website and see about adding some photos & information on 3 TDs to help enhance the content...


"The information that you requested.

Linda And Jim Northrup,

Thank you very much for updating your record for the MG 'T' Register Membership Album.

You indicated during your phone call that you wanted to go online and provide additional content to produce a book made by you and your fellow members. You can visit our online content submission page to provide your opinions, stories and picture.


The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd.
Publication Office

If the links in the e-mail above do not work, you can also share your pictures by visiting: https://www.memberconnections.com/newenglandmgtr, then use the below login ID and Password to access your form.

Your ID number is:
Your password is:

Harris Connect, a trusted partner of The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd., has been chosen to produce our member publication. Harris Connect's commitment to protecting privacy is reflected in their privacy policy on-line at www.harrisconnect.com/privacy.html

If you prefer not to receive future communications regarding The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd. Publication project, please click here.

The New England MG 'T' Register, Ltd. Publication Office
at
Harris Connect
1400-A Crossways Blvd.
Chesapeake, VA 23320

©2011 Harris Connect, LLC.
Jim Northrup

Bud,

I think that you and others are expecting an NEMGTR dataBase. I don't think that's what it is. But on the other hand, nobody seems to know what the content is or will be.

What most people, icluding myself, want is a proper dataBase of names, addresses, tel nbrs, cars e-mail etc.

There is an issue here of intellectual property, but its easy to get around legally, if the participant provides a waiver - simple as that.

I've written to Charlie Searles asking him to please clarify exactly what it is that the telemarketers are pedalling.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

So if someone submits their information, does it automatically get published in a public book?
Steve S

This is the second time in the last few years that I've rec'd this offer. Like most things that come via email or snail mail, I approached it with skepticism. It does come off as being an official sounding membership thing, which of course, it is not. You certainly have the option of not buying it, even if you do supply information. I would recommend, of coarse, not sharing anything that you would not like to see spread everywhere. I also hope that the Register gets some kind of assurance that the emails of its members don't get sold to other groups. I have been a member of large local cycling club for many years and quite some time ago, the board took it upon itself to sell the membership list to a large mailorder bike supply catalog house. Over the last 15 years or so, I've probably rec'd 500 lbs. of cycle (and God knows what else) related junk mail! We, as T owners, are very blessed to have the Register. I don't get any car related junk mail, so I have to assume that the powers that be have not sold us out. I agree with George that if this program offends anyone, they should contact Charlie Searles, or someone else on the board, and see if they are indeed aware of it, and if so, one can certainly share his or her displeasure. As far as the "pick your pocket" thing, I have never been pressured into buying anything. About the only thing that I spent any money on, was admission to a couple of GOFs...money very well spent!
Hudson Terraplane owners?? Must be a pretty thin book!
Steven Tobias

Guy's this is just information for the membership directory. The last one was for 2006 and the Register wants to update it. I have used the directories in the past to locate other members and found the information very useful. I have not had any problem with privacy as a result of the Directory.I think it would be good to include all members so that we all can access owners when on the road. Additionally you can add information and photos about your cars and family.
On the other hand if you don't want to participate just ignore it and don't respond. No need to trash the system.
Barc Cunningham
NEMG'T'R No 2932
Sydney NS Canada
Barc Cunningham

Fine, Barc. Now how can I get a copy of the plain Jane version that just gives members' contact information. Let the family and cars photos be in a deluxe version. Bud Krueger
NEMGTR #9826
Plymouth MA USA
Bud Krueger

I have ventured to the webpage the email directed me to.

It only parrots back the information I provided over the phone. It provides spacees to list spaces to fill in car year and car number. NEMGTR already has this info. There were no provisions for submitting photos or descriptions.

I would be interested in viewing a copy of this just to see how many or how few cars get listed.
Jim Northrup

Hi Bud;
Maybe I should send you my old one.
Just in case some of you have not seen a copy of the NEMGTR Directory, in addition to the members, it listed all the available email addresses, the distributions of car by models and years, geographical location of members by state and country, and about 500 color photos of members and their cars, and club contact info.
I have no personal interest in having members buy a copy. I just think it is not such a bad deal.
Barc Cunningham
NEMGTR #2932
Sydney NS Canada
Barc Cunningham

I can't understand why the Register is not directly providing more input on this matter. And I still don't understand what it really is; and what one gets for $90.

Gord Clark NEMGTR #100
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

I emailed Charlie Searles but have so far received no reply. I don't like the fact that they are giving out personal information without permission, even if it's only to other members. What information is kept confidential and what information is shared should be at the discretion of the person providing it. If I want to receive TSO, I shouldn't be forced to list my home address in a public directory. Just an example, to make a point.
Steve S

Steve S,

By law, your personal information cannot be distributed without your permission, so I don't think that has to be a worry for you, and I would imagine that Harris is more than aware of this.

The purpose of a dataBase is to make just such personal information available, but without your written OK, it can't happen, and the dataBase without it, is of little value. But there are always some folk who have no problem with their personal data being published.

I have not received the notices or e-mails mentioned and contact seems to be random. That's why I'm wondering just what the Register has authorized to be published.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

I told my wife today I'm about to change my cell phone number with all the advertisers phoning recorded spam calls and text messages eating up my money & minutes.

This is just one of the consequences of trusting some agency with private info.
Jim Northrup

I hate to break it to everyone, like it or not, your personal info is already available to anyone with a computer. This would include your "criminal" background (traffic tickets to felonies), civil infractions and lawsuits, business owned, occupation, family members,and even the value, floorplan, and location of your house. There are also street views and very clear overhead satellite views of your home and properties from different angles. Like it or not, this stuff is already out there. It would be good if there was an opt-out for anyone that didn't want to be in the book however. There are some good state and federal "no call" lists you can put your phones on to cut down on the spam calls. George
George Butz

As I see it, The Register doesn't have the right to pass on my personal data to any party or organization, like Harris, without my permission.

And again as I see it, Harris may be breaking a law on intellectual property since they knowingly are using a list, with data not legally obtained, for purposes of solicitation.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

....I remember a friend being extremely paranoid about people finding him on the interent (this was a number of years ago), and he would say "I don't want people knowing where I live"..... I handed him the telephone book and he sort of did a double take....
gblawson(gordon- TD27667)

... true Gord. But e-mail addresses are an entirely different matter.

One can black-list one's own telephone number to prevent tele-marketers, but that's not so easy with e-mail and spam continues to flow.

Gord C
Gordon A Clark

A week later and still no reply to my email inquiry. Disappointing to say the least.
Steve S

For over ten years, I was a member of the Antique and Classic boat Society. Each spring, I would receive a 600-plus page directory. Each member would be listed alphebetically with his boats, by year, Make, Model, motor, length and name. Also, members would be listed according to their geographic region according to state. In addition, each member was listed under which chapter they belonged to. You could easily find all members who had Chris-Craft, Century, etc for whatever year, even by boat name. This always raised the question: Why can this be supplied for FREE, and the NEMGTR charge such big bucks??? I'd happily supply one of my copies to the NEMGTR as an example of how an organization can take care of it's members. Incidently, yearly dues were only $40, and included six color magazines AND membership in the local chapter.
Lou Van Koningsveld

I went to the ACBS web site,,, quite nice indeed!
and I also see that they have many ways to acquire the funds to support their organization besides the 2011 $45 membership fee,,,
Capital Building Fund, Planned giving, Capital Reserve, Gen Endowment, Life Membership etc,,,
They even have enough money donated/endowed to have their own headquarters!

SPW

STEVE WINCZE

Steve,

Talk about clubs having their own facillities. Several MG clubs in OZ have LARGE facillities with a full-time paid staff of up to 8. Dining room, bar, club meeing rooms etc. And membership of 400 or more.

Most of their events are quickly and fully subscribed, including in one case, the Tuesday morning Breakfast Runs.

Matthew McGilton, are you reading this ??

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

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