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MG Midget and Sprite General - Steve Jobs of Apple fame has died

Hmmm,, i wonder if there is an app for that...hahaa

One day after the lunch of iphone 5...

Anyway, an intresting man for sure, i never agreed with his managment style...but he was definatly a visionary and inspiration to my generation


Prop

Prop

Ok Prop, a little fact checking in order here.

The launch was for a newer iPhone4 not the 5.

He had pancreatic cancer for quite a while, he stepped down as Apple's leader just recently and has known for some time that his days were numbered.

Still a great loss, whether you love or hate Apple it's amazing what he did with that company.
Rick Bastedo

Through him I can honestly say my life and career changed.

From buying our first Mac in 1988 (if memory serves me correct for £36k with all the bolt on to make it a full production machine - it did replace a £250k design system so was a bargain at the time) to my latest laptop I have to admit that I am a Mac fan thro and thro.

Another hero passes. RIP!

and for those who are interested, take a look at his Stanford Address, inspiring!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc

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Andrew McGee

Well, I've been listening to the Apple love-fest on the radio and I have to say I find i-products a pain in the ****

- iPad won't display anything with Flash
- no simple sync between the devices without 'orrible i-Tunes, no simple drag'n'drop of files
- no Bluetooth file transfer on the phone or the pad
- overpriced

Sarah's got an iPhone and I prefer my Android. Haven't used a Mac so I can't comment on that, but the ubiquity of Macs among the graphics community was always a pain to those of us on PC until recently.

Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

An interesting and talented business man. Personally I feel most Apple products are style over substance. But that was his genius, able to create a brand and products that people would buy religiously despite their flaws. Smart man, I'm sure he will be missed hugely by many.

Malcolm
Malcolm Le Chevalier

Okay so I can empathise with some comments above and truth be known my phone is a Blackberry, I don't have an iPad, I do have an iPod and a few Macs as work tools.

Whatever folks feelings are on the equipment that is purely subjective, however without Jobs you wouldn't have the User interface of Windows and many other user interfaces on the various other Manufacturers kit either.

Max, not sure you'd want to use a Mac tbh, there are indeed PC options which are far cheaper and do the business stuff, Macs are indeed the primary chosen tool of us "designers" simply because of the way they look and feel to use. I've used PC's to endeavour to create work and whilst they do do it, they don't do it with the ease that a Mac does. Don't know why either as the applications ought to be the same but aren't for some reason.

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Andrew McGee

With mac Iphone and Ipad you can work without having to work to get them to work.

Simple example my father had an android phone for a year, then he bought an Iphone and could do more with it within 10 minutes than he ever figured out in the year with android.

Yes they are expensive and yes the other products can work to but not as easy and not as good looking.

The result from a person who has a vision and accepts no compromise.

But as he said him self
"death is a great thing, it clears out the old and makes room for the new"
Onno Könemann

I'm firmly with Onno on this one.
Aside from Apple's incredibly tactile, "I want to touch that" design, the simple logical operation of the iphone and ipad is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology for those with no techno bent whatsoever.
We have just bought an ipad for my mother in law who has never had a computer in the house and would frankly be totally scared of trying one. She has become so frustrated with the need to do everything on line these days that she in common with many of her generation was becoming effectively disenfranchised in society. Now she can email, book theatre tickets, browse the web etc etc with absolutely no computer knowledge or keyboard skills and without the fear of "losing" files or "breaking" something.
As a user friendly interface it is quite revolutionary and Jobs' legacy is gathering a team of talented designers and engineers who were willing to think outside the box and produce gadgets that not only say "I want one of those" but are genuinely useful.
I remember my first ipod, a mini of about 7 or 8 years ago and I was astonished I could carry my entire record collection on something smaller than a fag packet. I thought the iphone was a gimmick until I tried a friends and now wouldn't be without one. For someone who actually makes very few mobile calls its great as its so much more. I have just discovered ebooks and Project Gutenberg, the founder of which also died a couple of weeks ago. For business trips I now need nothing more. A Blackberry may do certain things better for sure but the Apple stuff is so easy. Next step dump the pc and buy a Mac!
Matt1275Bucks

I've never worked out why people claim the PC to be superior - for sure, it has an office system that everyone uses, but, is being a sheep good?! You get eaten at best ....

OK, so I've had Macs since the dawn of time, and had a very close relationship late at night with many in Uni libraries typing up essays and dissertations, maybe that's why I now have a mac laptop, a mac desktop, several ipods and an iphone that I can't live without! (Having said that, my dad has now just got a mac desktop much to my horror and disgust as I can no longer just say "I haven't got a clue, I don't DO PCs to his endless questions"!)

It's a sad thing that such a man was taken away by that hell of cancer - and as I read on facebook, there are three great apples who have directed humanity - the apple that Eve ate (maybe!), the apple that fell on Newton's head (possibly) and the certainty of the apple computer :)
rachmacb

I admit, the iPad is rarely switched off but only as an entertainment centre. As soon as I need to do some work it has to be PC with mouse. Maybe that's only cos I've never used a Mac!
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

To me it's about using the right tool.
Most wouldn't use a hammer to try and tighten a bolt, nor a wrench to pound in a nail.
In my humble experience a Windows PC is great for doing office type stuff and for playing 3D games.
An Apple PC is great for touchy feely stuff, graphics, music, art.
I use both and also Linux servers as well, I sure as hell wouldn't try to use a Linux machine for the stuff I do on Windows or Apple and neither would I want to do it the other way round.

Steve Jobs was great because he could invent what the public wanted before the public knew they wanted it.
Rick Bastedo

Up until recently I worked in software development and was doing some development on tablet PCs and I found myself dragging out the USB keyboard and mouse as the touch screens got really annoying after a short while, especially the virtual keyboard, I understand some end users of the software and hardware did the same as it was fairly straightforward to do as the application used an off the shelf tablet. I don't know what happens on iThings if text is required but I would imagine similar, best avoided if possible for an easy experience but not always possible.

Regarding Macs the marketing department at the company used them almost exclusively and when we on PCs got the graphics files you could see the Unix heritage in Mac OS X from the various file extensions. Me I almost exclusively use Linux but currently only on desktop machines as I haven't found a real need for anything else yet.
David Billington

In my opinion Macs are far more user friendly, I don't have one now and find my PC a real PITA at times, but it does the job, if admin is your thing!

I suppose I shouldn't really be a fan of Apple - if it wasn't for the MacIntosh my job as an advertising 'finished artist' would still exist (thats drawing, illustrating, airbrushing etc on a drawing board), but the Mac brought all the design tools to everyones fingertips, so I was out of a job! However, I still think that anyone who could come up with concepts such as the Mac, I-Pod, I-Phone and Pixar should be celebrated and the world should be grateful for his legacy.

PS. I also use a Blackberry, and thats rubbish as well!!

David 'grumpy old man' Wigley
David Wigley (MK2 Sprite)

So is anyone selling apple or shorting the stock

I just cant see apple having much of a future...when you consider jobs didnt have any faith in his people and seriously micro managed everything from which tolit bowl brushes to window sizes in his head corp office to what color and size the packaging peanuts for shipping the ipods in

Clearly why apple never could attain mor then 5 to 8% of the personal computer market...just to much micro managment and little faith in his people to know what there doing

I just dont know if there is a creative leader that can fill jobs shoes and devolop new devices and still control the company as a private lab... I just cant see the labor .and managment knowing how to work by themselfs without lots of direction and oversite
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Its going to.be a scary place to work with people .now having to make decisions on there own....i think thats going to be a serious corp culture shock

The other big issue is how will they keep all there key poeple... Im sure the good leaders are being head hunted big time in the last 24 hours now that jobs is gone... I cant belive they where devoted to the company and not to jobs himself. Those people can write there own pay check and take what ever CEO postion they choose

I really think apple is the next microsoft, intel, wal mart, cisco

Anyway... Just some of my thoughts

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