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MG Midget and Sprite General - MG LIve this weekend

Unless I'm mistaken, there has been almost no mention here of MG LIve this weekend. Anyone going or are you all drying out from Midget50.
Chances are that I will be there on Sunday but could possibly change that to Saturday deppending on weather forecasts and when the majority here are attending.
Gary & Gaps

Not going this year, apart from the fact that the racing appears to be primarily aimed at the FIA set it's extremely expensive and we simply can't justify that expenditure at the moment. Okay so it's on the F1 circuit again however it ain't Spa or the Nordschleife.

Without wishing to cause ructions again, commerciality is obviously the main cause behind the move to "invite" other clubs and marques along to cover the cost of the circuit fees. Unfortunately it appears as clubbie racing is taking second place in an effort to get the Kudos of the big circuit and the required big entry list to pay for it.

Personally, I'd rather be there on the short circuit and be able to enjoy the whole weekend for slightly less expenditure and closer racing than have it strung out over the longer circuit and have less lappery.

We went solely as enthusiasts last year and without the timetable of racing had a very enjoyable weekend but the move towards becoming a "historic race weekend" is evident at the expense of the "average" club member.

Lights the blue touch paper....
Andrew McGee

tend to agree Andrew, however we bit the bullet and have entered the ZS180 in the Peter Best races on Sunday - but not the enduro, and no testing or garage this year to save the pennies.
David Smith

Gary, I hope to go on Sunday but as its only twenty minutes up the road I'll probably see what the weather's doing. You're welcome for to call in to me in Whitchurch for a coffee if you're passing.
I do feel for the less well heeled racers as MGCC does seem to have decided to take the whole thing up market over the last couple of years and to my mind the whole ethos of the MG marque from day one was to offer affordable competitive motorsport to the ordinary enthusiast.

Matthew
Matt1275Bucks

Not been to MG-live for a couple years but if it is as Andrew & David describe it slowly changes into: "Silverstone Classic" one month later.
Many exclusive races and all that, altho every year they have a new organisation taking it on as so far every previous organising company has gone bankrupt...

So not very sure if its wise for the MGCC to go that direction but only they know how the finances are if they dont, maybe insted they should co-host it with the MGOC to split costs and devide risks.
Spridget50/midget50 are examples of how one event can be carried if clubs incidentaly join forces.
MG-live could be just that in the future.
Arie de Best

I doubt that it will ever turn into the Silverstone Classic as it has so many other things going on - and the racing is almost becoming secondary to it, which is also a bit of a shame, as that was the origin ....

There are the financial constraints, but, hopefully over the next few years, then people will slowly realise that it's got plenty of other things, and, as such, purchase tickets, which will then subsidise the entry fees.

So many events of all sorts are now changing their formats to try and appeal to the modern interests of the "family" nowadays, and it's up to everyone to put forward their ideas of where and what needs to be done. It's always nice to have this done in a constructive manner though ....... It's sadly not just motorsport, but also other previously well supported events - such as County Shows etc.
rachmacb

Will be there from Thursday night. On the subject of costs, we are paying £300 for a 25 minute race on the Saturday with a 25 minute qualifying. Testing on the Friday is only costing me £95 for 60 minutes; 2 sessions of 30 minutes. Overall therefore 110 minutes on the GP circuit for £395. Not at all bad compared to other weekends.
John Collinson

Well put Rach. A very difficult job for the organisers to appeal to everyone and include attractions for all tastes. I decided not to race this year for a number of reasons and partly that I wanted to save my racing for my favourite tracks at other times of the year.

John, 110 minutes on track? Will it keep going that long?? ;-)




Nigel Pratt

Ah bugger Nigel beat me to that comment ;P
But has it not sold yet John?

No Live for me this year due to butget cuts (pre-war and wedding)
The best way to enjoy for me is as part of a race team!
Who knows one time I might be driving....
Onno Könemann

Whilst it is a cost issues deep down at the heart of the matter with respect to the club having to cover costs for the event and not make a loss on it. The fact that the powers that be make it a "premium event" by choosing the GP circuit and then having to sell off track time to recoup the investment.

It's just going to end up being a mini Coys or Silverstone Classic where only the "monied" can compete. If you look at the race entry there's Julius Thurgood HRDC series there for "period" Touring Cars and A series engined GT cars. And surely if there are several Midget racers out there who are considering evolving their current cars into Lenhams/Ashley's etc etc then the writing is on the wall for the other MGCC series.

We've got the square wheel arch car sat in the garage at the moment ready to be started on for the "junior" team (our kids!) and it's quite tempting to build a GT replica to go playing out with the HRDC, yet another loss to the MGCC.

If the move is to go FIA or period look, then surely we will do that but then we can all look at the marketplace and pick and choose where we want to race here and abroad and there's plenty more on offer than what the MGCC offers.

It's supposed to be trying to attract us to the grid not drive us away.

Just my opinion tho!
Andrew McGee

Do you think the MGCC has any choice in the matter which circuit they can use?

They need to take the whole place for the weekend and I suspect that the owners (remember the owners had some very big bills to pay over the last few years) have stated what is required from the Car Club to be allowed the event that we have all loved for many many years.

Not sure the event is changing for better or for worse? I can not remember it being any different from what it is today except that a number of years ago we only had racing on the Saturday. Thus race entrance fees were only collected for Saturday. Now the MGCC have made use of the circuit on Fridays Saturdays and Sundays. Naturally they need to invite other clubs/championships to fill the program and earn extra cash to pay for the circuit hire for the long weekend.

This event is the bread and butter for the Car Club and it's members, it is sad that the BRDC need to make higher charges, I think credit is due to the club and organisers for trying to cover these extra costs in a creative way.
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

Would it be an idea to use a less high profile circuit?
Sure the silverstone name is fantastic but if it is a financial burden it might not be the best choice.

After all there are plenty of nice tracks in the UK.
Donnington would be nice......
Onno Könemann

I think it must be remembered that unlike other clubs? the MG Car Club was founded by the directors and Managers of the MG Car Company who intended that the club faciltate the use of MG cars by their owners in Motorsport, social and many other type events. With that in mind I paid £60 for my wife and I to enjoy 3 full days of top class entertainment at a historically significant circuit compare that to the £16 I paid for a few hours at Midget 50!

I think whilst the event remains successful and gives members what they need then it only requires tweeks and improvements. When it does not do that and becomes unpopular then bigger changes will be required. This is a consideration that I am sure is reviewed year upon year.
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

Onno, there is a double 'n' in Onno and Konemann but NOT in Donington.
Bob - yes of course the club have a choice, you answered your own question. When racing was on the Saturday they only used the club circuit; when they decided they could fill grids for 2 days they booked the International circuit to attract the extra people. Now they book the GP circuit, again to attract the extra people. And so far, it works.
Arie - if oyu look at the race program on the website you will see they are already selling grids to the MGOC. MGOC only has 1 race series, albeit with numerous classses, but they are struggling to replace the numbers of Maestros now they are old and mostly dead.
David Smith

Bob I don't disagree with you, however there was talk by the management to hold the racing on the Club circuit and it appeared that it was going down that route then it suddenly reverted back to the full GP circuit.

Over the last couple of years (sprint apart) the main emphasis has been inside of the club triangle with obviously the General camping between that and the bridge.

Making use of the full GP circuit makes a bit of a nonsense as it's too far out of site to spectate and the cars take an age to come round again.

As I recall there are events happening on the Stowe Circuit during the weekend so it can hardly be called an exclusive hire.

Yes it is the defacto event for the Club and its members, however its the old Chicken and Egg scenario, is the Club having to cover the costs by being creative and selling track time to non club members simply because they've wanted the Ego boost of running on the main GP circuit and the costs that incur.

Friday track usage last year was a problem as I recall due to the Marshaling issue for covering the length of the circuit.

We were positively told we could not race in the two driver Enduro last year unless we both entered two other races (and registered for their series) to allow us to qualify for the enduro.

One, we'd have got in the way of regular competitors if we had done so. Two it would have cost us nearly a £1000 in registration and entry fees, fuel etc and this is for a "club" weekend. We worked out we could have gone to Spa and had more track time for less money.

Speaking with a prominent member of the Club last year he simply looked me in the face and said "as a business don't you look after your best customers... that is what we are doing!"

So their best business is HRDC, MGOC, FIA oh and if the club members can rustle up enough cars to make a grid then perhaps the Peter Best and Cockshoot would get amalagamated into one race and one qualifying session. Oh and guess which two race series we would have entered to allow us to race in the Enduro....

In these austere times maybe the Club should cut their cloth to suit and hold the event but not make it the all singing all dancing "Octanesque" event it is becoming. Maybe by running on the smaller circuit and reducing the entry costs then there may be an improvement in entry numbers by the clubbies and the club wouldn't need to sell the amount of track time they do to third parties.

Just a thought.

Hope you have an enjoyable weekend and again I hope the grids are bursting with action.
Andrew McGee

I heard you mention that attitude last year mate I don't feel qualified to comment however I am not convinced that the club circuit was available for use? really not sure on that one but commonsense would suggest to me that if it were then the club would naturally agree with your sentiments.
I remember one year racing with the MGCC on the club circuit on Saturday and racing at Stowe circuit on the Sunday (not sure who the organising club were on that occassion but it makes the point I think.

Entry fees in those days were about a ton! how things change.
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

David
Sorry I am as dyslectic as hell so I will and have made many more faults.

What did you all think about the MG Live advertisments??
and I mean the B with the "hooligan"type guys.....
Onno Könemann

I haven't seen any adverts.
Dave O'Neill 2

To me it's a great opportunity to sample the GP circuit, 2 weeks before the British Grand Prix.

We are in the HRDC race, with the one-litre Moggy. And 53 others.....HELP!

Come and see us in the paddock! Anyone in Wilts/Bath area planning on going, we may be able to help.

Andy

PS Surprisingly we just got in the Green Man (Premier Inn), deciding to stay over on Saturday night.

Andy Pie-Crust

Andy, I'll try to pop down to see you you and the Moggie. I don't have a timetable. What time is your race?
Gary & Gaps

Racing is an expensive hobby - always will be. The race entry fees for me are the least part of the overall costs. Take into account the costs of preparing the car, tyre wear, brakes, oil changes, race fuel, fuel to get there (a lot from Devon!) general wear and tear on the car, possible accidents, food etc. at the circuit. I would much rather race on the GP circuit than the Club circuit and save a few quid. Silverstone may be the only event I do this year due to work commitments. I prefer other circuits to drive (Donington for example) but Silverstone has lots more going for it - the social side, the crowds, variety of other things going on etc. and hence that's why I chose to do it. We also get 4 entry tickets so saves buying some if I wasn't racing!

Nigel - practice and an hour race at Spa in the rain without missing a beat and with Oily driving for a chunk of that; 110 minutes at Silverstone will be a doddle!

Onno - no sale so it might be seen wearing a new set of clothes sometime soon.
John Collinson

I can confirm the frog went like clockwork at spa and it was realy wet!
Made an intresting night in a tent with 3 guys.
Next time it will be a hotel or camper!
Onno Könemann

Bob - the choice of circuit to hire for racing was made by the MGCC organising committee *after* feedback from competitors was sought andreceived. The majority think the club circuit is mickey mouse and the GP circuit (whether Historic as last year, or Arena full F1 as this ) more demanding and interesting.

Andrew - apart from the odd attention-seeking showboater club racers are not there to entertain the crowd, but for themselves; see my response above re: circuit choice. Racing, as with everything else, is a marketplace; the fact that plenty of people are building Ashleys and Lenhams and going on to race with Julius' new series shows that the recession is not as bad as some expected, and in some areas is having little, if any, effect on spending. But if on a budget (like me) then one has to be creative. One can enter Peter Best as a 'team' with 1 car and 2 drivers, and at a double-header you do 1 race each. That is how we are doing MG Live and Thruxton this year - although I still forsook the enduro due to cost. For double the enduro entry fee we are getting an hour's practice and a full 3 hour race on the Nordschleife in September - no contest!
David Smith

The weathers looking good.. 24c and sunny on Sunday
Tim Dalton

Sunday it is then.
Gary & Gaps

I'm there Sat (car-park duty) and Sunday...

A
Anthony Cutler

My views on the way the MGCC treats the club members are well documented, and I have put my money where my mouth is and not renewed my membership of the MGCC, after more than 30 years. There's no need to belong any more, if I ever build an eligible race car it will be allowed in either Julius' series or the FIA/Equipe GTS events so I may as well put the membership towards the entry fee.

On other chat forums, there is criticism of "modern" MG drivers being up themselves, which I think is a bit rich coming from a guest race! I can't be @r5ed to look, but what is the proportion of MGCC to other clubs/makes these days? IMO it is worse than last year, again in the other place there's only two people on the threads who actually compete in an MG.

By running Silverstone Classic Lite, I think MGCC is going away from core purpose, which is to provide a race meeting for club members. By spreading the net wider, it will attract more and more non MG competitors and spectators. This will reduce the take of valued supporters such as the MG spares traders and will see a decline in their attendance. Once there are no decent spares deals in Traders City, club members will find less reason to come and the event will be just another race meeting instead of a must attend. The MGCC will continue to produce a brilliant race meeting, but rely more on imported clubs to the extent that there will just be a couple of "Members Races" for all comers, the rest for headline imported races and the whole point of MG Silverstone (as I persist in calling it) will be lost.

Just Max being pessimistic? Possibly, but look what happened to the MGCC of Ireland when it started running the Irish Formula Ford Festival. Imploded.

it's being so cheerful as keeps me going.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Chin-up Max! I've not been to the event before but the HRDC series has been a hoot so far. Assuming your not coming then, get over to the Barge on Monday and I'll buy you one. I do hope we do see you out someday; a "historic" MG is a great plan, but how's the Porsche?

Gary - ours is on Sunday at 13.00. Call me if you don't have a ticket.
Andy
Andy Pie-Crust

I'm sorted for the ticket. Many thanks for the offer. I'll try to get some nice photos of you and the moggie.
Gary & Gaps

>>>>>> I've not been to the event before but the HRDC series has been a hoot so far

My point exactly........HRDC sounds a hoot and something to aim for. MG Live is a hoot as well, but not what *I'm* looking for from the MGCC which is racing against MGs in an MG environment. After all Andy, you prove my point, you're not taking an MG!

'Snot a problem, I'm sure I'm in the minority. I suspect what the Club are aiming for is an event full of what I call "fringe historic" smaller saloons and sports leaving the Classic to the high rollers and their FIA big bangers/single seaters/50s race cars. The two could co-exist nicely.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

I think Max has hit the nail on the head when he says this: "I think MGCC is going away from core purpose, which is to provide a race meeting for club members"

....and the prominent member who said this needs shooting: "as a business don't you look after your best customers... that is what we are doing!" A club like MGCC should be a for non-profit business IMO, of course the race meeting must not run at a loss but I dont see members as customers who must be sold something.
I speak as a MGCC member for than 30 yrs who will be competing in the California cup on Saturday morning... but I havnt bought a ticket for main event as I find a bit pricey and now quite samey each year. Ian


Ian Webb '73 GAN5

HRDC does indeed sound a hoot and it does appear to cater for what folk want, I'm not wanting to do the MGCC down at all as I too have been a member for 26 years and want to do my racing with the MGCC, however they do appear to want to pander to the other clubs rather than offer their existing members a chance to race within the club directly. I'd rather not have to look elsewhere, but it does seem that other clubs have got the balance right for track time versus expenditure and reasonable circuits.

So we all end up building Ashleys/Lenham replicas and go play out with HRDC, that does that do to the MGCC.

It's all moot anyhow, as our good race engine is a bit sick at the moment and we're putting the available budget into that rather than do any racing this year.

Being lucky enough to have another car in the garage waiting to be rebuilt for the "Junior" team (our kids) with the salvaged bits from the previously totaled car, it is very tempting to build the GT and join in with Julius's series, yet again I'll feel disloyal to my club in doing so.

Andrew McGee

I think it is safe to say that the MGCC run a number of specific race meetings throughout the year to qualify for giving members the ability to go racing in whatever MG they desire.

I also take all the points on board that have been raised and IMO they are all quality comments that hold high merit.

I think it is sad for Max that someone like yourself feels the need to throw in the towel and go elsewhere. I too have felt a little empathy with that this year but I always look at the situation and think that the members of the MGCC are custodians of our club. Like some people feel about many cars I feel the same about the MGCC, it is too precious to lose, however it must be run correctly and we must all do our bit to ensure that happens. I am absolutely positive that your voice Max is just as welcome as any other. I hope one day you will reconsider. :)

Silverstone international (I am the same as Max) is another event altogether and it will be a sad day when it stops (IMO) At the moment we may complain but it is successful and whilst that is the case I assume it will continue.

I am with John on this one. When I was racing, the whole point was to emulate your heros and racing on the GP circuit would have been a marvelous experience, sadly one I never enjoyed although copse was still copse! For those who have never enjoyed clubman racing then tell me what you felt when you hammered it down the Mulsanne straight, if the hairs on the back of your neck did not stand to attention then you are in the wrong hobby!
Bob Turbo Midget England

Unfortunately Bob they don't actually offer the racing that we would like and do elsewhere. Maybe we are in the minority, however the number of competitors that have "jumped ship" to compete in the CSCC series and those that now appear to be building or contemplating building cars specifically for the HRDC then the question needs to be raised within the club to see if they are indeed offering what the membership wants.

I also considered not renewing this year, however the club is (or should be) more than the racing, I just wish we could find our kind of race series within the club and give our "pound" to them.
Andrew McGee

Hearing you guys I think historie is repeting itself.
We in Holland (the 2nd oldest and 2nd biggest mgcc in the world) use to have the MG-Assen event which was loads of fun on the TT-track for members: sprints, gymkhana and stuf.
At some point more marques where invited to race and it becam brittish race festival or something like that.
Intrest from MG members hasnt been wild anymore for a couple years now.

But maybe the organisers didnt want to go this direction either but because of new/extra rules the cost were rising and were they forced to get paying race-partners from other clubs???
It cant be easy to organise anything big with all rules, safety, possible lawsuits and not loosing money.
Arie de Best

Hahahahaha - what a thread hijack!!!!!

See those of you who are going there - will miss seeing you Max, but totally understand your point of view - and glad I got the chance to see the "gin palace" last year!
Will see Ian at probably the last bastion of "club testing" that there is for those of us with no money ...! You should come down to the Anglia Championship sometime - great organisation, fun competition AND I got my first Fastest Time there last year :) So, I'm not biased in the least ;)
rachmacb

Rach: Don't get me wrong, I'm not boycotting MG Live in a huff or as a point of principle. I'm not going because I haven't got a race car, I lost money last year when I take the Gin Palace into consideration and I'm broke!

Oh and I am committed to work at Combe. Busy, busy, busy!

Bob: I have other gripes about MGCC too, it's not just MG Live. I believe everything has its natural cycle, and my time with the club is up, so again it's not leaving in a marked manner, just slipping away to do other things.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Yes Max - these expensive cars you have ...!!!! No, seriously, I kinda understood that and that you've moved on and are having a ball - but will still miss saying hello and getting sommat cheap from your box (or a high class concours car ...;)!)
rachmacb

I know Max mate I have been assured however that certain issues that have occured over the past year will now be put right so I am probably winning my little area of concern. So there is hope!! :)
Bob Turbo Midget England

Ian said "A club like MGCC should be a for non-profit business". Having attended a Council meeting, I can assure you that the MGCC IS a non-profit organisation, unlike the MGOC. The MGCC has had a big black hole in its finances in recent times and the Silverstone event is important to them to try to ensure that the books balance. At the moment it is the racing entries that keep the club financially afloat, so please don't all jump ship. This is an issue that worries the management because if the racing goes down the pan, so does the club, and is the reason for the hike in membership fees recently. The management of the MGCC is better now than it has been for decades, with an enthusiastic general manager in Julian White and young guys like Chris Seaward, who is in his twenties, making a major contribution.

As someone else said, the MGCC is far to precious to let it die.
Mike Howlett

if racing is important then the various series and championships need to be ALL taken in-house by Abingdon and not run by personal fiefdoms who consider it their baby and have done for decades. It needs coherence of rules, registration fees, publicity, co-ordination, results services, points tables etc etc. Then attention might be turned to attracting new competitors by making it easy to do the odd one-off race without jumping through hoops and spending a fortune, or being flatly refused.
David Smith

As a marketer, if I were losing core business I'd be looking to find what they want to retain them, not rushing around trying to spend my way out of trouble with brand extensions. Business history is littered with companies who burned their fingers by trying to do something new rather than conentrate on core business. (I've done it myself)

Core busines: Retaining members, providing a motor sport infrastructure for MG drivers, providing a social infrastructure for MG drivers, providing a technical information infrastructure for MG drivers

An extension too far: a commercial spares operation, the Donington race meeting many years back

Have a great time at MG Live everyone, I wish I were joining you!
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

David is exactly right!!!! (says with disbelief!) sorry Dave I am only joking. LOL

But yes David has hit the nail on the head but If I may comment, that has been the case for many years now and we have survived!

Lets hope we have a great Silverstone and the next few years bring the prosperity that we all hope for.
Bob Turbo Midget England

Another voice of agreement here, as I've said I'd rather be able to spend my race budget with the MGCC and race my MG at a MG event. Sure I love seeing the other marques there in an invitation series for a point of difference, but surely if they are reliant on those other clubs to come along to cover the costs then maybe the commitment is too big.

With the exodus of racers to other series such as CSCC and especially HRDC who ironically get the "pound" and then actually race within the same event where some of their entrants previously raced it is potentially undermining their own foundations.

As Max says, it appears that the management are pushing further afield and expanding to new horizons instead of taking a closer look as to what their existing members can bring to the club. If the club does not offer it, how can we spend our money with it?

We don't all have FIA spec cars of that period look and to be able to share a car between two drivers the only potential events we can both enter are the PBIC and Cockshoot (both brilliant series in their own right) however it's those two that tend to get amalgamated so one of us would loose out.

We've previously supported the club by entering the two driver enduro's, and when there was two enduro's on the card we'd enter them both and happily so. After last years debacle over the entry requirements my co-driver decided not to renew his MGCC membership and we planned our calendar elsewhere.

Silverstone has been a highlight on our calendar for many years, but the cost relative to tracktime ratio and the ability to divide those costs between two need to be looked at otherwise we're all going to be priced out of the picture, unless that is the budget is there for a "Goodwoodesque" car, which I wish we could afford tbh.

With entry fees of around £350 per race, how many £350's have the club lost by selling track time to a different club or series organiser who then keep the "profit" proportion in their coffers and not the clubs.

Andrew McGee

How was it then guys? Have a good time?

We had cracking weather here on Sunday, hope you did too.

Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

cracking weather???

cracking the bl00dy flags!

steaming hot today at s/s, even the breeze was warm.
Tarquin

Any photos?.... :)
S Deakin

Tarquers I didn't know that you were there.
I was hangingf around Andy Pie-Crust's pit most of the day and only went for a walk about in the morning and just before leaving around 3.00pm
Finally got to say hello to David Caulthard and reacquanted myself with quite a few others. It was really hot and even with factor 30 I got a bit burned.
I have a few photos but have to reduce the sizes a bit to get them on here.

First is Andy in his Moggie just after their driver change.

Gary & Gaps

Shaun Rainford's SS1800 replica and Darryl Davis' "Ashley GT Works" both succumbing to the heat (or some mechanical fault.


Gary & Gaps

Jim Prentice's AH Sprite Le Mans.

More tomorrow if desired.

Gary & Gaps

Take it as read that we do desire so, ta Gary :)

getting the hang of the 'tography lark lately ain't ya...

Love that Moggy Mynah picture mate

classy
Bill 1

What a great day,very hot with great racing. It was nice to meet Andy and Gary and I must wish John a quick recovery!

Carl

photo of one very rapid Midget!!

C Bintcliffe

we've shared a garage with Rob several times in the past so watched the development of his quick Midget - he hand-rolled those rear wings since last year, the man is very skilled to say the least.
David Smith

Andy did you get your overheating sorted from the Hully track day? Guess this weekend would have sshown it.

MM
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

They had a major escape of water during practice/qualifying, so much so that the marshalls wouldn't let them continue. So the head was taken off to make sure that it wasn't the HG. We think that it was the bypass hose which gave out. A new one was fitted and the Moggie seemed to do fine and not overheat even though it was a scorching day.
If I've got any of that wrong, I'm sure that Andy will correct me.
Gary & Gaps

The general consensus on the other forum I frequent among the non-MGers is that the weekend was a success.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Yep Max it was a fantastic success and all credit to the organising committee who are moving the event forward at an incredible rate.

Naturally the weather helped but the event is the best I have been to and sadly for my claim to youth I have been to many many Silverstone internationals the last 25 on the trot!

Couldn't find space to park my MGA in the register park on Saturday and Sunday, was the second one in the park on Friday! :)
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

Actually Bob I was just thinking the other day, my memory pre dates International Weekend, when I first went it was the MG Car Club Members Race Meeting and California Cup Driving Tests at Silverstone.

Earliest I can remember, I must have been about 8, stood on the viewing gallery above the pits and sat in the God Awful grandstands, where the seats were long strands of canvas looped over scaffold poles. Although I know I went there earlier than that.

I pre date you by at least 15 years, which is maybe why I feel like I do. So ignore the ramblings of a silly old fool...I'll just have to bite the bullet and get an FIA car if I want to support the club.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Agree with all the other comments - a great weekend. Good to see so many faces and also good to see Andy's moggie out in the hrdc race.
John Collinson

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