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MG Midget and Sprite General - Its the silly season

Good ol Jeremy Clarkson angers Union, who want him prosecuted. LOL

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=jeremy+clarkson+one+show&oq=jeremy&aq=2z&aqi=d1g-z2g8d-o1&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=1024l1941l0l4333l6l5l0l2l2l0l195l531l0.3l3l0
Lawrence Slater

Yes; storm in a teacup. Who'd've thought... get Clarkson onto the Oneshow to make some outrageous remarks, and he only goes and makes ... an outrageous remark. Never saw that coming!

I never saw the show, and wouldn't have even heard of the remark, except it was on Radio4 (Today) - several times - and again all over the news. And now there are many websites where you can enjoy it all over again...

What about all the stikers' posters calling for politicians to be hanged, or worse... wot no outrage about that?

A
Anthony Cutler

I try to avoid the political discussions on the BBS as I dont really feel it is the place for them, but I'm in a mood for a rant today! ha ha!

Was just reading about that. And someone will probably want to shoot me for what I am about to say but... Why won't the damn communists quit wasting my taxes on pointless legal threats and get back to work! ha ha.

My company changed their pension scheme (private sector) last year in exactly the same way and for exactly the same reason. The fact is money doesn't grow on trees and it can no longer be afforded.

Anyone that disagreed with the new pension scheme didn't have their contracts renewed (they were sacked!).

In my oppinion it appears there is a bit of a mentallity at the moment of 'I deserve money for doing nothing'. People want to continue to live like it is 2006, when the economy can no longer support it.

Anyway... rant over. I don't agree with everyting JC says, but good on him, someone had to say it (although saying they should be shot is a bit OTT!).

Now to sit back and wait for the backlash... ahhh...

Malcolm
Malcolm Le Chevalier

LOL.

Germany must be pissing themselves laughing at us in the UK. We used to accuse Germans of having no funny bone. Seems we brits are losing ours if the Unions are to be believed.

Long live the struggle. Up the workers. One out all out. heh heh.

Where's peter sellers I'm alright Jack when you need him? :)
Lawrence Slater

I do wonder sometimes, Lawrence. Time to live in a cave on my own with no human contact! :-)

Malcolm
Malcolm Le Chevalier

Clarkson is very funny unfortunately he also seems to have some very nasty pieces of his make up

same as Roy Chubby Brown, Jim Davidson and Freddie Star all can be very funny but it's not just left-wing liberal pinkies or commies that don't want to work with or now be entertained by these people

I have very wide and controversial tastes in comedy and still enjoy some of Clarkson's, and the others, jokes but it's hard to realised they still pile sh*t as high as Clarkson

He is generally know, and he’d probably totally agree when asked, to be extremely selfish and money motivated which to some extent is fine but he goes well beyond that point

being wealthy and in the media he knows about ‘controlling’ how much he’ll allow to be printed against him when he feels it goes beyond his benefit

Highly funny man, to a point
Nigel Atkins

Jeremy at his best, love it! I read that the ports and airports had no queues and were running better than usual; maybe it's all the bolshy jobsworths that go on strike, leaving the conscientious good staff behind to do the job unhindered. Anyone else agree that Karen Jennings is a po-faced old bat with no sense of humour whatsoever?
David Smith

Nigel, he was joking. Whatever you think of his talent as motoring madman or commedian, it was only a black humoured joke. That's what we used to be good at in this country. Black humour.

Clarkson nasty? come on, seriously?

Lawrence Slater

hah hah I had to google Karen Jennings.

Yup poe faced old bat. I agree.

String her up next Ed Millipede, or lock 'em in a room with Clarkson, and see who can tell the first joke that makes people laugh.

Guess who would win.
Lawrence Slater

I realise he was joking (to some or greater extent at least) and I've put I like his humour and most of his jokes

but from what little I know of the guy and have heard about from reliable people even in the MG and car club world I say again I didn't know they still piled sh*t as high as him - and I mean that without any humour whatsoever

he has more than the average amount of nasty in his make up
Nigel Atkins

Well you might be right about him being nasty Nigel, I wouldn't know I've never met him.

But I've never heard him say anything that has offended me. Bored me, or interested me, or made me laugh yes.

I think he's a pretty clever observer, with an out there for all to see, plain speaking kind of temprament. Good Bloke kind of chap.

the fact that he appears not to like shirkers, commies or lefties only adds to his charm. lol.

Even if I am/were a leftie.

What's to take offence about?
Lawrence Slater

<<My company changed their pension scheme (private sector) last year in exactly the same way and for exactly the same reason. The fact is money doesn't grow on trees and it can no longer be afforded.>>

My other half works for local govt., so we've had numerous healthy debates on this subject ;o)

However, I find Clarkson objectionable. He is one of the reasons I no longer watch Top Gear.
Dave O'Neill2

Well that's a shame, you won't get to see the new Sweeny film then. Jeremy has a small part in it. :)
Lawrence Slater

other than your link I know and have heard nothing about this

I'm not refereing to this incident - just this second heard it on the news

anyway mine is a general observation about about Clarkson's underlying offensiveness and nastiness not this particular idiot remark which personally I don't find funny or offensive

think of how tall he is and that pile
Nigel Atkins

Well I named this thread well then. It truly is the silly season. :)

Lawrence Slater

This is the perfect time to organise a strike.

Why not show people how well they can get by without you in a time of economic depression.

Times are changing and right and left, poor and rich are not accepting the need for change and to adjust your demands to the current circumstances.

All sides just get more extreme and stubornly retreat in to their own corner when the fastest least painfull way out is in the middle
Onno K

Dead right Onno.

If you spend your life refusing to alter your expectations, often times, you are disappointed when the world doesn't live up to your dreams. No point refusing to accept reality, it won't change it even a little.

As for dear old Jeremy, he's said sorry now. Can't think why, and doubt he really means it. He's probably lauging all the way to China. lol
Lawrence Slater

Clarkson is an odious @r5e, there was no need to say it how he did.

Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

You're not a fan of Jeremy then Max? :) Come on he's not all that bad is he?

Sounds like he has something in common with Marmite. Hate or like. lol
Lawrence Slater

totally forgetting what happened yesterday

like everybody he has his good points but the guy you see on the telly is obviously only a version - he's actually a lot worse in real life

he's piled very high

sorry to shatter the illusion of those with celerity or even hero-worship for the guy hopefully nobody on here (but you never know some worship sports stars, drivers, even cars !!)
Nigel Atkins

Only person I worship is in the mirror everytime I pass it. :)
Lawrence Slater

who's photo you got there then?
Nigel Atkins

My own, taken 30 years ago, LOL
Lawrence Slater

a 'private' Poloroid no doubt - I bet you're place is never burguled
Nigel Atkins

Clarkson legend! Haha!
Nathan Dowding

I agree Clarkson is an odious man who is legend in his own mind. I stopped watching Top Gear years ago because I found him and the sycophant Hamond's staged school boy stunts more and more ridiculously stupid.

Public sector workers are undoubtedly some of the poorest paid workers in the country and in most cases are people who serve the general public. Nurses, Firemen, police and teachers are the pillars of the community and deserve our and idiots like clarkson's respect. To expect them to pay more in, get less out and work longer because of a bunch of Bankers whose greed caused the mess. Clarkson, a public school boy who has frankly never done a days work in his life, who is part of the same league has no right to vilify peoples right to remove their labour in protest.
P Ottewell

I think insteqad of starting a new thread here called the silly season, I should have added my first post in this to the agree or disagree thread I started. lol.

Pete, i think the operative word is "SOME" Public sector workers are undoubtedly some of the poorest paid workers in the country ---. I know plenty in the private sector who don't get a lot either, or a pension at all. So it's a complex problem.

As for JC, well ---- er, I like him, and his humour.

My tin hat is now on my head. :)

Lawrence Slater

P you cannot get away with this
<Public sector workers are undoubtedly some of the poorest paid workers in the country>
thirty years ago maybe but 17 hard years of Blairite leftism changed all that and by any comparative measurement public sector are now around 5 to 10% better rewarded than private sector. Many many bodies' surveys studies and statistics to back it up.
David Smith

public vs private pay came up on This Week just now - even Billy Bragg agreed that public are now ahead of private, complete turnaround in last 20 years.
David Smith

Perhaps my vision of the great JC is blurred by a son who would watch old TG repeats on Dave then switch over and watch it again on Dave Ja Vu! Even Mother Teresa could become an irritant in such circumstances.

Is this thread a public spending rant or a JC's an @r5e rant? Just so as I know which soapbox I should get out.

Would be better if JC were employed by a council, we could have a BOGOF offer!

I did enjoy the newspaper articles on the day after the strike:

Daily Fail "Damp squib"
Grauniad "Britain paralysed"

Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Way back, when I was a man the barricades, fully paid up member of the us against the bosses, bring on the revolution, leftie, --- I was thoroughly deluded.

My heroes even included A scargill and Red robbo.

"Down tools boys, crush the country, squeeze the rich bastards until the pips squeek, share out all the wealth evenly, and create a fair society".

I believed it all. I sang the songs and marched the marches. A working class hero is something to be.

Then one day I heard a phrase. I didn't like it, in fact I hated it. I didn't quite understand why I hated it, but it gnawed at me. I thought it was because it was said by a dispised tory minister. I've no idea who first said it, but to hear spoken by a stinking Tory, was enough for me.

So I hated the term, "The Politics of Envy".

Later, as I met the realities of the world, and started earning money, and stopped hating those who had more than I did, I realised I was guilty of the policics of Envy.

"You've got more than me, so I want to make you have less". Secretly though, I want what you have, and because I can't have it, I would rather drag you down.

Not anymore.

I don't give a stuff if someone went to public school, and was born into a priviledged background.

I had a VERY happy childhood, sitting in my room in the winter, with hat gloves coat and scarf on, whilst the condensation turned to solid ice on the inside of my bedroom windows, because their wasn't enough money to heat the room. Truly I didn't feel poor or underpriviledged.

BUT, if I could go back and choose to be born into a rich life on a country estate, where the nearest neighbour was a mile or more away, across the grounds, where the horses grazed in the top field, --- would I choose that life?

You can bet your bottom dollar I would.

So let's drop the hate of the richest bankers and politicians and public school journalists, and remember that rich or poor, there are scum in both strata, honest and crooked, lazy and workshy and grafters.

Sharing all the wealth out won't work for long even if it were done, and frankly there are plentywho definitely do not fall into the category of the deserving poor.

I have every sympathy for the underpaid hard working sod, that inspite of their best efforts remains at the bottom of the pile all their lives.

But we have to remember. In this country, education is not only free, it's compulsory.

If you are born fully equipped mentally and physically (and even if you're not in some cases), and somehow manage to emerge into the sunlight after your school years, unable to get anything but the most menial and lowest paid job, that just may be your own fault. We all make choices, from a very early age.

We shouldn't expect others to carry the can for our bad decisions, --- or spare the humour at our plight. :)

JC has made headlines, with a silly insignificant off the cuff joke, while the Euro is about to collapse, the world is facing econonomic armageddon, perhaps even nuclear armageddon (Iran), --- and my windscreen wipers have stopped working.

I told you it's the silly season. LOL.




Lawrence Slater

I read the news storys about JC yesterday. The articles have taken the comments completly out of context if you actually watch the entire clip/interview.

I rarely watch the news these days because 99% of it, including whats on the BBC which is supposed to present a balanced view point, is utter utter guff.

Ho hum...
Malcolm
Malcolm Le Chevalier

For my view: what he said was in poor taste and wasn't funny. The fact that he said it was hilarious! Watching the faces of the two other presenters, whoever they were, was a real gem!
Guy

That's exactly why he's so funny Guy, he has so little taste. lol.
Lawrence Slater

The more I see the interview, the more I look at Clarkson and think " what a knob." but I don't ever think I will be marching into strikers' homes and shooting them, nor am I baying for his sacking.

He merely made himself look stupid, and if unionistas concentrated more on worrying about their members than feigning outrage twits like him would have nothing to feed off and would go away.

There's plenty of true outrages in Bahrain, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe et al without getting all worked up over one overpaid, over privileged dipstick. BBC has had 5000 complaints. That's more people than watch the One Show isn't it? Let's try and fix genocide and poverty first, then worry about this twerp. A little perspective required!

So this was a JC rant then.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

No Max, it was just my observation that the silly season has never gone away.

Exactly as you say, there are more important issues in the world than a harmless joke, however unfunny some may think it to be.

But not according to the Union, who wants him instantly sacked, without due process or appeal, and prosectuted for inciting violence.

Now that's truly funny.
Lawrence Slater

I did think that the Unions reaction was somewhat un-union like. Perhaps it's a valuable distraction or JC has actually done them a favour by keeping it right up there in the news.
Gary & Gaps

Bring back Wolfie Smith, come the revolution, they'll be first up against the wall
Nigel Axtell

My wife has recently retired from Local Government. She was a pay scale 3, payroll clerk in the wages department of our Local Authority. Several of her colleagues left the department to go and work for private companies doing exactly the same job for much better pay, so the statement that the public sector is more highly paid does not hold true across the board. However, it's a wonder that our local town hall doesn't fall over as it is top heavy with managers in very highly paid jobs, while they make many of the lower paid workers redundant and pile the extra work onto those that are left. Incidentally, my wife's State pension is better than her Local Authority one and she is still paying tax, so let's not have too much of the "Gilt edged" Rubbish. Don't forget, you can make statistics do whatever you want them to do, so I don't care how many bodies studies and surveys are quoted, I just know that in the lower paid part of the public sector they are not better paid than the private sector.

As for Clarkson, besides being an irritating prat, he's a one trick pony. Thrashing expensive cars and being sarcastic starts to wear you down after a while, and that's basically all he does and also one of the reasons I stopped watching TG several series ago. I'm sure all the racing contributors to this forum could do the driving bit as good or better than he does, remember Tiff Needell? And what is it they say? sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Bernie.
b higginson

JC has done his bit(or not)for humour for now, he's gone to China, to see if he can get himself shot, by taking the rise out of the government there.

But it's still the silly season, everyday. Everyday a new bit of silly.

This is classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7xgQqP9DE

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16000522
Lawrence Slater

I hope he stays there....
P Ottewell

Clarkson ought to do us and himself a big favour and keep his big gob firmly closed on subjects he has no understanding of. (Well that will be everything then)

We should all share the pain of what the financial institutions have placed upon us since 2008 an perhaps public sector pay needs to be cut and perhaps we need o address the pensions situation that is for sure, but it is not a simple issue. These people have signe "CONTRACTS" and have paid for many years in good faith believing they would get what was promised, it is no surprise they are striking to make this point. Many in fact have given up the opportunity to get better pay elsewhere knowing the pension at the end of their term would make up for low salaries.

HAs Clarkson suffere ince 2008? NO!!!!!!!

In fact has the MPs had their pensions cut? NO!!!!!!!

Have MPs had a 5 year pay feeeze?? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somewhere I think someone has a good point and it isn't Clarkson!!!

I remember in the 70s+ when again a Conservative government and unions f88ked our industry and country up, lets hope we are not in that situation once again!
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

I also recall when the government of the day decided to nick the pension investment profits because they thought they were too. High. If they hadn't done that then private pensions might have had some chance of holding up to an acceptable level when stock markets fell.

It's the same with public sector, when the government unilaterally change contractual terms without negotiated agreements
Guy

Well now this is TRULY getting silly.

It turns out that JC pre-arranged what he was going to say, and it was agreed in ADVANCE with producers of the BBC One show. JC decided to add the bit about "in front of their families".

Nobody can seriously say he meant it, if you listen to the whole thing in context. But all the venom directed at him should at least be shared with all those in the know about what he was going to say, before he said what he said.

More than that though. What has happened to sense of humour? Black humour. Are we so politically correct now that everything subjected to the funny bone, must now past muster with the comedy police, lest it offend somebody?

Given that there are as many people who think what he said was funny, as there are as think it wasn't, shouldn't all the vitriol also be directed at the sympathisers of his joke too?

The unions reaction to JCs joke was absurd. They even spent their members hard earned money, consulting a top barrister to see if they could sue Clarkson. It was almost Monty Python sketch like. So too is all the over emotional nonsense being talked on behalf of our poor starving downtrodden and oppressed public sector workers.

Very few people are escaping the results of the economic chaos. Public sectors are not alone in losing some of the value of their pensions. I personally consider them lucky to have one at all. I don't begrudge them it, but I also don't think it unreasonable to have the terms and conditions of their contributions changed either. Unfortunately people are living longer, somone has to pay for it.

I even expect to live way longer than I thought I would. Would someone other than me please send me some extra money for me to put into my pension pot? No? Guess not. I'll just have to pay for it myself then.
Lawrence Slater

Where has the humour gone?? you ask??

Maybe I along with most people I know did not get the joke, (if indeed it was one?)

Can you explain the Joke to us mate?

We all agree that we all must share the pain, where is JC sharing the pain?

The man is an over paid cretin!

When it comes to humour I think he needs a lesson from Peter Kaye! LOL
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

I don't find Jeremy Clarkson particularly funny any more, but had to laugh when I saw this poster whist on holiday in Greece last year. I think he wants to keep his Greek singing career quiet. :)

Jonathan 1972 1275 RWA

Here's a close up in case you aren't convinced.

Jonathan 1972 1275 RWA

Seriously? Yep that does look like JC, you should send it to the BBC, and accuse him of moonlighting. Does JC count singing among his lack of talent then?

Rob. You either get it or you don't. You don't. I don't know why that is. Ask god.:) Why do humans find others suffering funny? I've no idea. But plenty of us find humour in some aspects of it.

Here is probably the commonest joke species in the world.

Man steps on a banana skin, ends up on his ar*e and people laugh. Why? Poor bastard could have fractured his skull, but you don't think about that when you hear the story or see it happen, and he's rubbing his bum. Countless laughs have been raised in film and cartoon about this, and it ignores the possibility, and the reality, of someone dying because of a banana.

It's black humour. Either you get it or you don't. Either you find it funny or you don't.

A blonde walks down the street and sees a banana peel a hundred yards ahead, and she sighs. "Here we go again."

Sexist, blondist, and cruel? Perhaps.
Funny? A lot of people think so. Just because EVERYBODY doesn't see the humour, doesn't make it less funny to those who do.

So what about JC, and his and the BBCs, combined "take em out and shoot em" joke? I repeat. Nobody can seriously charge the BBC or JC with actively encouraging striking Public sector workers (PSWs, I'm lazy), to be rounded up and shot. Can they?

But plenty of people so think, rightly or wrongly, depending on your point of view, that psws should not be allowed to hold the country to ransom because they have a gripe, and because they can. "You've got pain? Fair enough, just don't inflict it on me", type of thinking.

A lot of people express that in varying ways. Some say sack 'em all. Much more likely to be meant, and still found to be funny by some people.

It's the extemeness of the remark, that provokes the laugh. It's what a lot of people are metaphorically thinking, and then someone only goes and says it out loud for all to hear. Result? Laughter.

Now when the hampster as he is called, was almost killed in that stunt a while back, their were ooodles of jokes flying around. I don't recall much or any fuss about that. He even joked himself.

Why should JC or everybody HAVE to share the pain?

I resent being made to, and am busy doing all I can to avoid experiencing any pain at all. Unsuccessfully I might add, at present. :)

JC over paid? Is that what mosts upset people, how much he gets paid? lol. So ok, as long as he doesn't get so much he can ssy what he wants :).

Who is Peter Kaye, and why would JC having lessons from him be deemed funny? :)







Lawrence Slater

As one of those who JC would have shot in front of his family, it seems clear to me that he was trying and failing to be funny... I take no offense at what he said, I just found it rather childish.

Did I strike because I don't agree that the government should alter my pension at all - actually no, I and many of my public sector colleagues realise that the country's dire financial situation means that we can no longer expect to retire at 60.

However bear in mind that one of the reasons that I and many of my colleagues took a job in the public sector was the package including the advantageous pension arrangements - and I haven't had a pay rise which kept up with inflation since 2003.

What gets up our nose? Mainly the fact that the Government has point blank refused to negotiate at all... They decided to unilaterally change our pension arrangements because it is 'unaffordable' (and we have to take their word on that) and they are not prepared to talk about how that is to be done... Strike action was the only way to get them back to the negotiating table

I have to accept that my pension will now cost me twice as much, I will have to take it 7 years later, and it will be worth substantially less to me than before... The pension contributions that I pay do not go into a pension 'pot' - they go back into the exchequer... the net effect of increased contributions is to substantially increase taxation on public sector workers...and now we are told we are to only look forward to a 1% pay increase in 2013 and 2014 after our 2 year pay freeze comes to an end...

So will I be staying in my 'gilt edged, gold plated' public sector job once this recession ends...? Absolutely no chance...





James B

James,

This is a different issue, the JC stuff is a red herring.

I'm geuninely interested in hearing the side you put.

I don't get to see the internal arguments, I'm not a psw. Like most people I rely on what I see in the press (hopefully the truth if you read all of it and take a balanced view), for information. But know that's never the whole story.

The Gov't disputes what you say, and the courts have just ruled that the change to the arrangements as far as the CPI/RPI was a legal change.

You say that no negotions were taking place, and yet daily, the gov't says they are. Even Millipede says talks are going on.

So who's right?

What is your oppinon of the the Hutton report, that these changes to your pension are based on?
Lawrence Slater

a common saying is 'they should be took outside and shot' it's the adding of 'in front of their families' that ramps it up, or down, depending on your opinion

it's also when and where the joke is told - the One Show is is broadcasted at a family viewing time

Clarkson went to great lengths to stop things being said and printed about him that he didn't like
Nigel Atkins

So Nigel,

Do you think the Union was right to try and take Clarkson to court for this "offence"? How should Clarkson, and the BBC producers responsible along side him, be punished?

You said earlier that you thought some people hero-worship JC. Maybe they do. What interests me more, is that you (you are not alone in this) seem to positively hate the guy. What did he ever do to you?

I can't help but find peoples reaction to all this, FAR FAR funnier than his joke. As a reasult of his joke (depending on your view of it), did anybody get hurt? Die? Lose money? Suffer embarrasment?

I wouldn't worry about it going out at so called family viewing time, from what I read, Hollyoaks is far more near the mark.

If ever there was one, this really is all a storm in a tea cup. lol :)
Lawrence Slater

Lawrence,
I’ve not suggested he should be punished at all

I’ve made no comment about the Unions

I don’t hate the guy but from what little I know of him makes me thoroughly dislike him, I’m sure he also has many good qualities

I’ve put three times now >>I like his humour and most of his jokes<<

on checking it was the One Show for my last post I saw that one report at least says he might be in mental distress

here’s a statement for you, it might also be a joke(?) only you can decide for yourself –

given what Clarkson has been reported to have said about suicides it would be ironic if he was to commit suicide

- personally I don’t find that a joke only because I can’t find the humour in it not because of the subject matter and I thought of it

I think it should not have been said on a show that's transmitted at a time when it will be watched by families with young children

I'm pretty sure that the mother of Clarkson's children would not liked to have her chilren when they were very young see or hear someone suggest that their dad should be shot in front of them

I wonder how Clarkson himself would have reacted to someone else saying that about him when his young children were watching I bet he'd have sued them for their distress (and the 'offender's' money)
Nigel Atkins

I consider that I have a great sense of humour but god help us all if that was somehow funny

I think people should be taken outside and shot in front of their families.

And that you find amuzing?????

One of us needs help, maybe that is me?
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

in context it was absolutely hilarious; unfortunately the sublety and irony of what went before, i.e. Clarkson sympathising with the strikers then realising that the BBC 'have to show balance' so taking the extreme opposite view, seems to have gone completely over 21,000 people's heads.
David Smith

Yup, i think it is you Bob. It's not the sentence itself that's potentially funny, it's the whole context as shown on HIGNFY rather than the shortened quote seen by those who want to be outraged.

Do what I do Bob, switch him off and you won't be outraged. And direct your ire to successive governments of all colour who have squandered so much cash in keeping the status quo in place that means there's no money for hard working public sector workers to have their due rights.

Or be outraged that union leaders are paid by their members to stand up on TV to spout such drivel against the ramblings of an idiot on a flim flam TV show. Still, boosts the ratings for TG, the One Show and his DVD doesn't it?

But really, have a little perspective!
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

it's the context that's my point

the adding of "in front of their families"

on a show that is broadcasted at a clear family viewing time

I feel that bit was an error and as he added it then to me it's Clarkson's error - up to him what he should do about it
Nigel Atkins

Wow thats a relief

If smitthy thinks its funny then I am saved. I am more than happy now to be exactly opposite to David so am breathing a sigh of relief.

Lawrence if you want comedy then here is a fine example of the kind of comedy you suggested Clarkson was failing to find

http://is.gd/aQNzTP

Unlike the Clarkson effort where you can not point to why it appeals to you

With this sketch I can explain exactly why it is amusing!
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

Sorry Nigel, I have to disagree. :)

It was PRECISELY the addition of the "in front of their families" that lends it the extra humour. It's the sheer absurdity of it that makes for the humour. And if after all JC has said about suicide jonny, he was indeed to go out and top himself, then the irony would indeed be funny. How dare I say that? Well that's another story. ;)

But back to the families remark.

"They should all be shot". -- extreme point but not literally meant. Thus extended with "in front of the families". It's the killer line that finishes the absurdity and makes it funny. --- To those like me with a monty python/black adder type of distorted funny bone.

I would have added, "nay, not in front of the families" "WITH the families", and "Including the budgie and the cat while your at it".

AND, since we are talking about the poor and starved underclass of society, you could add, "don't forget to shoot the cockroaches and fleas too". lol.

If the JC "joke" is considered offensive, (here at least)I finally understand why my warped humour has upset so many here. I think hollowed out new borns used as slippers is funny. What can I say? Shoot me at dawn with JC. Better still, it's the right time of year for it, and as he has the appropriate initials, ---- ? --- Whoops better not say that, might be children watching. :)






Lawrence Slater

It is nothing like the humour of Python or Black adder, they are funny!
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

Rob, that's a long winded way to take the piss of the "good book", (or the unmentionable book). But not bad.

Have to be very careful where you screen that, you could be shot -- or stoned. LOL.
Lawrence Slater

Lawrence,
I do understand the extension being the extra turn on the phrase but as I keep putting it's doing it on a program that's broadcasted at a family viewing time

I'm no prude or want to make up for poor parenting causing children's ears and eyes to be wrapped in cotton wool to protect them from the real world

you censored yourself with the JC initials - why did you stop? and why didn't Clarkson stop??

if we're still about at Easter I'll put up my favourite Easter joke
Nigel Atkins

Python got into hot water with JC in the Life of Brian.
P Ottewell

yes and the Not the 9 o'clock News sketch about that was very good

remember it all very well from the time
Nigel Atkins

Nigel, I didn't censor myself with JC. I just couldn't be bothered to type out the obvious Jesus Christ and Jeremy clarkson link. My typing, like yours I think, is 2 finger whilst looking at the keyboard not the screen.

And as I keep saying, watch Hollyoaks if you are worried about young kids getting a bad education or the like.

The watershed lost it's tin roof years ago.

And as for the Life of Brian. My mother, deceased, was a regular paid up member of the church going society. A thoroughly nice person, and true christian, in the real meaning of the term. Her and my sister(not deceased), saw that film so many times, they could come home and recite the script almost all the way through. They thought it was that funny.

Now though, my sister regrets ever finding it funny. That amuses me no end, and now I recite lines back to her, just to wind her up. :).
Lawrence Slater

Speaking of the life of brian.

JESUS: They shall be satisfied. How blest are those whose hearts are pure. They shall see God...

MANDY: Speak up!

MAN: Shh.

BRIAN: Quiet, Mum.

JESUS: How blest are those of gentle...

MANDY: Well, I can't hear a thing.

JESUS: ...spirit. They shall have the earth for their possession.

MANDY: Let's go t' the stoning.
Lawrence Slater

Well done Lawrence, you knew there would be a lot of mileage in this one.

Isn't it a bit of a coincidence that Clarkson opened his cakehole just at the time he has launched a new book? (There's no publicity like bad publicity)

His utterances on the show were so predictable that I could have written his script, and the only thing I thought amusing was the reaction of the two presenters.

Although I must admit to finding his books fairly entertaining, the man is no stand up comedian and relies on what Arthur Daley would refer to as "cheap jibes"

But you have to hand it to a man who has made a fortune out of "knocking" things, be it motor manufacturers, people, way of life or whatever, all pretty negative at the end of the day.

As for the trade unionists - I hadn't realised they were so thin skinned.

Clarkson's views on people driven to suicide is a different matter.

Dave.
D MATTHEWS

Dave, truly I had no idea this thread would even get a response. Most of what I type is considered drivel, (maybe rightly lol), and I expected it to be ignored.

I just happened to switch on the laptop, start drinking me morning cuppa tea, and turned to Yahoo finance. And there it was, a news item about JC and the unions. The union reaction made me think of it as silly season. So I posted it, and expected it to die a very quick death.

It's funny of itself, that it has thrived. LOL.
Lawrence Slater

Lawrence,
get yourself the Jaaaam DVD

ask your sister if your mum ever mentions Doris Stokes as we've not heard from her as promised
Nigel Atkins

Only problem there is Nigel, unless my sister can communicate with the dead, my mum is incommunicado lol.

Doris Stokes? Who's she? I'll have to google her.

Amazing coindidence though. My neighbour of 37 years, where we grew up, was Kitty Stokes. :) OoooEr. lol.
Lawrence Slater

"Thought provoking drivel" Lawrence, keep it up!!

Dave
D MATTHEWS

Ah got it Nigel. Yes indeed.

As it happens my mum departed in the same year as the said Doris. 1987. Doris left in the May, and hence might have been in the reception commitee for my mum when she arrived late in the Spetember the same year. And being a stokes (my neighbours name), I'm sure they would be good friends. Both liked to natter, ---- a lot. lol.
Lawrence Slater

How about this then?

How to lay waste $1M worth of italian motors.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-05/eight-ferraris-crash-at-gathering-of-narcissists-.html

Moral?
Be careful who you drive in convoy with lol. Might apply to the london bridges this year. :)
Lawrence Slater

And here's why women shouldn't be allowed to drive.

So all you girls in Spridgets, STOP! lol.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8930168/Allowing-women-drivers-in-Saudi-Arabia-will-be-end-of-virginity.html

Academics in Saudi's highest religious council, said the relaxation of the rules would inevitably lead to “no more virgins”. The academics warned that allowing women to drive would "provoke a surge in prostitution, pornography, homosexuality and divorce". Within 10 years of the ban being lifted, it claimed, there would be "no more virgins" in the Islamic kingdom.

This would be funny. But it's not. Because in this case the suggestions for punishment for ignoring the ban are not a metaphor. They are intended literally.
Lawrence Slater

Hi Lawrence

If someone meets your union representatives on a regular basis but point blank refuses to discuss any amendment to the original offer they have made then that is not 'negotiation' in my book... Interestingly after the strike ballot results the Government did make a revised offer which would have assisted all those within 10 years of retirement, but not those outside (divide and conquer?). Now the true depth of feeling has been demonstrated on the day of action, hopefully the Govt and TUS will get down to some meaningful talks...

Of course it came as a great comfort to all of us public sector workers that on the same day the chancellor indicated he would be restricting pay deals to 1% for the 2 years following the pay freeze, that people claiming benefits would be entitled to a 5.3% increase...

Regards

JB

...still considering whether I ought to take Jeremy Clarkson outside and shoot him in front of his family... There is a strong possibility I suspect that his wife at least, might not object too strongly... ;-)
James Bilsland

I think Jeremy's remarks were funny too so that leaves just Lawrence, David and me with a sence of political uncorrect humour then? :)
I just cant believe I apricate brittish humour more then most brits on this bbs, hillarious really! :)

Both World Wars cost many lives among many brittish but its the brits that come up with humour about it like several tv shows like Allo Allo and Blackadder and so on.
However deep the missery is a brit can always make a joke about it.
Apperently brittish humour is being killed by political correctnes what is exactly what killed the fun in Holland.

Back to topic:

I think they should shoot the Union directors before they kill the brittish industry again with their strikes.
Isnt history to learn from and not to copy when it didnt work the first time?
Before the Unions want to sue me for writing this after they are done with Jeremy, I just want to warn them that I have no money only debts. :)
Arie de Best

Oh Arie, I enjoyed the joke after I'd seen the full version, not just the made-for-outrage clip. I don't like the joke maker, and would willingly have him shot in front of his family.
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

Hi James,
I agree, if there was indeed a refusal to even discuss with the unions possible changes to the offer, I can see red rags to bulls. Anyway, as you say a ballot was held for strike action (some dispute that it was a sufficient majority), and that ellicited an improved offer.

Why then was the strike not called off for further negotiations? This weekend Hutton called the revised offer a good one, and said the Unions should accept it, albeit with the proviso that issues surrounding the lowest paid continue to be discussed.

Why isn't this acceptable?

And at any rate, if the Unions position were to prevail, how is the status quo on pensions for the Public sector to be funded? Tax rises on who?

Most people think there is an excess of the pay at the top, and perhaps too little tax at the top as well. But even if/when that is addressed, if you tax the rich until the pips pop out, it wouldn't raise enough to fund the level of pensions demanded. You're probably right though, it's not fair to alter conditions that were accepted years ago. But when faced with reality you have to deal with it. How do you fund an ever growing pensions bill if you don't make changes?

It's not just the pensions bill remember, the country is effectively bust. It's only gov't borrowing that keeps us afloat. Should we keep borrowing more until we all start speaking Greek? :)

As regards JC, I think you might have TWO wives on your side. lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055554/Jeremy-Clarkson-forced-grovel-BOTH-wives-caught-clinch-woman.html

Arie, maybe you should come and live in the UK, and fight for the right to be as politically incorrect as you want to be. LOL. Remember though, there is no death penalty, even for JC and the Unions.

Now there's a thought. A duel, old west style. JC at one end of the town, and the head honcho of the TUC at the other. When the Clock STRIKES, they both get fired. LOL.





Lawrence Slater

One for the curmudgeons.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/8954238/Jeremy-Clarkson-is-a-luxury-BBC-cannot-afford-MPs-say.html
Max max-at-midgetmax-dot-com

lol.

I thought this was dead, well revived. :)

I love this.

Lord Patten said, that it would upset a lot more people if Mr Clarkson, 51, was sacked because he was one of Britain’s “leading cultural exports”

Priceless. :)

He said: “I am afraid and you would have to explain that to a lot of people who enjoy Top Gear, and it is probably leading cultural exports from this county.


JC is a cultural leader. LOLOLOLOL:)
Lawrence Slater

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