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MG Midget and Sprite General - cure to rust.... super easy foe never rust agian

Check this out... I just saw it on a sunday morning tv car show

Im not sure how well this would work, but i lovethe thinking be hind it....

I guess the easist way to discribe it ....it a reverse reverse electrolisis.... Its an electruc box with wire sensor that tapes to various places on the car and applies some kind of electrical force that disrupts the oxidation process at the atomic level...aka atoms, nutrons and electrons

I just caught the end of this tv artical...but i just thought it was cool. The company name is called counter act... The website could use a makke over

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http://www.counteractrust.com/
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Try this link to counter acts website...it much better then there home page

http://www.counteractrust.com/counteract.htm
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Don't know if it will work, but it aint cheap, and how much power does it draw from the battery?

" --- 2 coupler system for older cars or cars with existing rust repairs. Priced at $349.95 including self-installer kit,---"
Lawrence Slater

That's not new. At least the method isn't. It has been used for years to protect gas pipes in the ground against corrosion.

Might work though, I dunno.
Alex G Matla

Wasn't the change over from positive to negative earth production something to do with reducing rust corrosion?
Guy

I orginally thought the price was high also..but...

Considering the cost of rust repair not to mention the time involved if you farm it out or do it yourself...i think $350 is cheap

As to power consumption... That i dont know but it cant be worse then a high end power stereo would pull and id wire it to hook up to a solar cell so when parked it wouldnt pull anything from the battry
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Website states: drawing less current than a typical digital clock.

And I remember what it's called; Cathodic protection. (free translation from dutch)
Alex G Matla

"Cathodic protection" Hey, maybe the pope invented it? boom boom.
Lawrence Slater

Less power then a digital clock....oh thats not good, my battry is dead after 5 days running a digital clock while sitting

Yeah ... Appeartly same tech used to keep water heaters from rusting out....im not aware of this kind of tech...but yepp its called cathodic
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LoL... Lawerance

" Cathodic protection" Hey, maybe the pope invented it? boom boom. "


Perhaps The secreat ingrediant to making this tech functional .... Is the virginity of naked little boys

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yes, they protect subsea pipelines using cathodic protection (pipes are my day job! fun fun!). By straping zinc/alu blocks to the line which corrode preferentially. It works because the entire system is submerged. Therefore you have have a complete battery cell (where the water is the elctrolyte).

I thought that these car systems didn't work because there isn't a complete cell. i.e. the air electrically insulates things from becoming a complete cell.

I'm no corrosion engineer so I can't really explain it fully or properly tho...

Cheers,
Malcolm
Malcolm Le Chevalier

Here is an interesting website on cathodic protection, http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.corrosion-club.com/images/corrosioncell.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.brighthub.com/engineering/marine/articles/29330.aspx&usg=__baeuEfZSQTud2QerQmvxutbzOIs=&h=362&w=500&sz=7&hl=en&start=3&zoom=1&tbnid=yxTNQh0E8w_pXM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=130&ei=3j_ATtWmI8Go8QOQ5-HqDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcathodic%2Bprotection%2Bship%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1 . It does seem to rely on immersion in water or earth.
£350 buys a lot of Waxoyl.
BH Harvey

Isn't this also called sacrificial anode?
Lawrence Slater

The sacrificial anode is another way to protect, but that's for under water where the current is generated by potential difference in the materials.
Alex G Matla

Ah thanks alex.
Lawrence Slater

It's technique I use from time to time with a battery charger to de-rust car parts. It works amazingly well if you have a complete circuit in a bucket of electrolyte, but won't work in air. And given the price, using zinc as a sacrificial anode would be better, although probably not all that much more effective.

One other point comes to mind. If they're negatively charging one side of the panel, will the back side of the panel not become positively charged and as such MORE prone to rust?

I'd also like to actually see what the reports they proclaim to have had done say, as the site doesn't have any quotes or sources shown, so I would very much doubt the effectiveness of any such process. All they do say is that the system will induce a measurable charge in a body shell, but they then go on to say that a 9V battery would do the same thing in an immersion test, which their tests aren't. But all of the customer testimonials are from companies working in a wet and/or salty environment, where any such system will work as it can then create a complete circuit. So their claims and the testimonials don't quite marry up.

Overall, without any real proof, I suspect snake oil.
S Overy

The system is popular here, I have two cars in the workshop now with it fitted. It's considered that the two electrode version is pretty useless though, the four electrode version on the other hand is superb.

All the Surf Life Saving Clubs here use them on their vehicles that work on the beaches... That's got to be a recommendation in itself...

Mark.
M T Boldry

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