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MG Midget and Sprite General - 66 Years Ago,,,,,,,,

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Larry C '69 Midget

Nice one Larry

if only it had been that easy? thousands of young men were killed as a result of poor planning and intelligence. I have visited the beaches on 3 occassions now and it does not get any easier. The emotions when there are staggering.

Those poor souls who fell that day and indeed those who survived are owed a massive debt they are by far better men than I could ever be.
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

I've never had the opportunity to go to Normandy but I did go to Auschwitz and though it's different, the emotions are similar. I've been once, and since it's the most depressing place I've ever been, I'm not going back but I highly recommend it to anyone and everyone. Gives you a look into what mankind as a group can do to one another.
Martin Washington

Actually 67 years ago, sorry. Have not visited either site, perhaps some day. When I see photo's of the cliff's, and what they faced it is hard to imagine the courage it took. A close friends father landed at Normandy, wounded once but survived, and a great gentleman.

My father, and father-in-law both were wounded in the Pacific war, both are gone now.

Regards,

Larry C.
Larry C '69 Midget

Truely remarkable men, lead by some serious retards, the more I read about how that mission should have failed due to massive imcomptence on the part of leadership and the mission architactes

Its just amazing what those men did and the sacfifice they made to turn around a fubar mission

This will be a mission that will be remembered long after the 300 men of sparticus is forgotten to history
Prop

Could a mission of that magnitude have been planned with 100% accuracy? Thinking not... and saluting those who gave so much.

My father-in-law was with the 5th Marine Division when they took Iwo Jima, and he can tell similar stories. He still considers it a miracle that he didn't suffer a scratch, especially when some of his buddies were killed when a mortar round landed in their foxhole.

-:G:-
Gryf Ketcherside

the fact that some things went wrong is unavoidable. Eisenhower famously said, "Planning is a must, but once you've begun nothing goes to plan."

The two biggest issues at Omaha were due to the weather (because of clouds the bombers couldn't see the targets, so they dropped "late" to avoid hitting the Allied ships just off shore, so none of the beach defenses were actually hit, and the swimming tanks sank due to a strong cross current).

The other beaches went considerably more smoothly, because there were things that went well for them (their bombs landed on target, their swimming tanks made it to shore, along with a host of other things).

And, keep in mind that the same weather that caused those problems probably saved MORE lives because of the "protective screen" that it provided for the invaders, and the part that it played to lull the Nazis into complacency on that night.

Think of the ginormous amount of planning and organization that went into not only getting all of the men and material across, but also into getting the necessary men and materials over for the next 6 - 8 months to keep the momentum going, until a working port could be captured and restored to action (the mullberrys were hugely risky, and were successful as temporary harbors, as were the temporary fuel pipelines run on the channel floor).

As a student of history I am astonished and in awe of the amount of risk that was taken, and the success that was achieved by everyone involved.

If you want to talk about "cock-ups", look at the raid on Arnheim ("A Bridge too far"), and even then, keep in mind that it was planned in a matter of days, compared with Normandy which benefited from, literally, years of preparation.

Norm
Norm Kerr

"and the swimming tanks sank due to a strong cross current"

The cross flow didn't help, but the loss of the Sherman DDs was more to do with the fact that they were released too far out from the beach.

Gold, Juno and Sword were cleared quicker aswell owing to the 'Funnies' such as the Bobbin Tanks, Flamethrower tanks and AVREs. The US Forces were offered these but rather turned their noses up at them.
Deborah Evans

Some things went wrong !!!

Im pretty sure in todays world those idiots (leaders and arcatects of the mission) would have faced a firing squad, and not been allowed to be buried on american soil, and there off spring stripped of there US citizenship

I fully understand you cant have a perfect by the numbers mission/war,,, but the faults & negitives of that caimpian where well below normal, and boardered on criminal with incompentance being the min.

Like I said i stand in stunned awe of how great these men that impravissed and sacraficed in the face such overwhelming obsticals, and that dosnt even include what they had to deal with from what the nazis threw at them on that day at the beaches.

Its no doulbt its the events of that day based on the lacking performace of safe air conditioned office leadership, that america will never blindly pledge allegiance to those who are in charge,,,, aka remember an idiot named george about 8 years ago.

Yeah,,, im sure he wised people didnt question his war decisions, had we not, he could have gotten more golf time in, and less time studing war basics

Prop
Prop

Can't believe it Prop is spot on!
Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo

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